THE DETAINEE FILES: Canada's top soldier wants to know fate of missing Afghan reports
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OTTAWA — Canada's top soldier says he's working to get to the bottom of what happened to reports from a senior Canadian diplomat in Afghanistan, which repeatedly warned that Afghan detainees turned over to local authorities risked being tortured.
Gen. Walter Natynczyk, chief of defence staff, said Friday he did not yet know where the diplomat's reports landed back in Ottawa, who read them, and what was done with the information.
"That's why I want to see the forensics, what actually happened," Natynczyk said in an exclusive interview with Global National in Edinburgh, Scotland.
Natynczyk weighed in on the same day Prime Minister Stephen Harper added his name to a list of senior Conservatives who say they were kept in the dark about the warnings — issued in 2006 and 2007 — that Afghan detainees might face torture once they were surrendered to local authorities.
Harper told reporters in Toronto he didn't see the reports from diplomat Richard Colvin "at the time," which said, among other things, he had seen first-hand evidence of abuse and torture while visiting Afghan detainees in jail in June 2007.
Earlier this week, Defence Minister Peter MacKay and his predecessor, Gordon O'Connor, said they'd never heard a word about Colvin's reports.
Colvin's take on the treatment of Afghan detainees was revealed Wednesday when an affidavit he swore on the matter was unsealed by the Military Police Complaints Commission.
In the affidavit, Colvin says he wrote and widely distributed his formal and informal reports to top bureaucrats at the departments of foreign affairs and national defence, as well as to the senior military chain of command.
He said he began filing reports in May 2006 soon after he arrived in Afghanistan.
In the first of his 19 reports, Colvin warned of "serious, imminent and alarming" concerns that detainees were being abused after being put into Afghan hands.
When media reports surfaced in 2007 of abuse of Afghan prisoners, Harper and his ministers said they had no credible evidence that Canadian soldiers were knowingly surrendering their captives to face possible torture in Afghan prisons.
In his Toronto remarks, Harper defended his government's handling of the issue since the controversy erupted.
"We put a new transfer agreement — Afghan prisoner agreement — in place with the Afghan government. It's two and a half years ago now, I think. So we have acted on these findings long since these reports," Harper said.
Colvin's affidavit was released just hours before Peter Tinsley, chairman of the complaints commission, suspended indefinitely his inquiry into the handling of Afghan detainees on grounds the federal government had refused to provide relevant documents to help implicated military personnel mount a defence of their actions.



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Frankly, the 'scandal of it all' has to do with the question raised of why should we care about any rules of engagement, if we were to treat these detainees as some sort of 'un-uniformed combatant scum' as suggested earlier. If we are, as a nation, fighting a war on behalf of a people as we did in Korea, in WW2, and even, if not especially in WW1 where the German army did not pose an immediate or forseeable threat to a sovereign Canada, then one wonders why a moral code of prisoner conduct applies in any war . . . but it does . . . or at least it used to, according to my grandfather and great grandfather.
Let's assume Kelly is right . . . we shouldn't worry about it. But the problem with a 'kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out' attitude in this case is, who is to say what constitutes the right to apply that apathy towards a detainee? After all, there are many reported cases of child soldiers, who have been polluted to fight a war that they might not otherwise have done if they weren't consistently brainwashed. It would seem that in cases like that (which are highly provable as existing), one might want to have a bit of care as to what happens to a person like that. Although one would think that an authority assuming a higher moral ground would treat all people alike in terms of NOT torturing or executing them arbitrarily or giving them to people that would, perhaps the thought of mistreatment of children that were coerced into fanaticism would at least give the more bloodthirsty of our country a reason to pause and at least honestly think a little harder about dismissing all people in a fashion that's more reminiscient of burning crosses.
The problem posed with the proposition of 'It's not our problem' in terms of what happens afterwards to handing over of prisoners is akin to the very same rules that we have in place as to why we don't send back illegal immigrants that are in immediate danger of being persecuted, tortured, or executed in their home countries . . . ergo, the term 'refugees'. It's a humanitarian ideal that we purport to uphold even though it does take time and effort to sort through. But that's the problem . . . a lot of times, doing the right thing is a bit more time consuming, and more expensive . . . and if we don't want to do it, then we don't have the right to assume that we are on any sort of 'side of right', because if we are going to be in a war, any detainees we capture are under our protection, which becomes a mandate as ordered by the very laws of decency and engagement of war that our forefathers fought to found and preserve in any of the wars we fought, regardless of archaic historical nonsense one might refer to as if it were some sort of moral axiom.
I would hope that qualifies as a scandal . . . otherwise, Canada has definitely lost its way.
Kelly is exactly right. The resurrection of this issue now is just more "scandal" mongering by the media and the opposition.
I think it says more about the present government of Canada than it does about torture, detainees, Afganistan or what ever. Here are our SENIOR officials aka; The BOSS, that are all denying they knew anything. Think about that statement for a while. Who the **** is running the country then??? Or.. maybe they are all lieing, which makes it alot worse.
I think it says more about the present government of Canada than it does about torture, detainees, Afganistan or what ever. Here are our SENIOR officials aka; The BOSS, that are all denying they knew anything. Think about that statement for a while. Who the **** is running the country then??? Or.. maybe they are all lieing, which makes it alot worse.
I think it says more about the present government of Canada than it does about torture, detainees, Afganistan or what ever. Here are our SENIOR officials aka; The BOSS, that are all denying they knew anything. Think about that statement for a while. Who the **** is running the country then??? Or.. maybe they are all lieing, which makes it alot worse.
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